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		<title>Comment on what ads say by tomfishburne</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19292</link>
		<dc:creator>tomfishburne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

Great feedback this week, many thanks!  I always learn so much from your comments.

This week&#039;s signed print goes to DSprogis.  I love the challenge he poses to rethink how traditional advertising even works, to shift from a quantity approach to a quality approach.  In a way, this is what TED is trying to promote with &quot;Ads Worth Spreading&quot; (which I invariably stick around to watch after listening to a TED talk):

&quot;With this competition, we&#039;re seeking to reverse the trend of online ads being aggressively forced on users. We want to nurture ads so good you choose to watch. On TED.com, ads run after our talks, not before. This means they can run longer than the TV-standard 30 seconds. And that&#039;s the key! In 2-3 minutes, there&#039;s enough time to really tell a story, share an idea, make an authentic human connection, become unforgettable. Instead of ambush, they offer pleasurable, intelligent engagement. &quot;

Thanks!

-Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Great feedback this week, many thanks!  I always learn so much from your comments.</p>
<p>This week&#8217;s signed print goes to DSprogis.  I love the challenge he poses to rethink how traditional advertising even works, to shift from a quantity approach to a quality approach.  In a way, this is what TED is trying to promote with &#8220;Ads Worth Spreading&#8221; (which I invariably stick around to watch after listening to a TED talk):</p>
<p>&#8220;With this competition, we&#8217;re seeking to reverse the trend of online ads being aggressively forced on users. We want to nurture ads so good you choose to watch. On TED.com, ads run after our talks, not before. This means they can run longer than the TV-standard 30 seconds. And that&#8217;s the key! In 2-3 minutes, there&#8217;s enough time to really tell a story, share an idea, make an authentic human connection, become unforgettable. Instead of ambush, they offer pleasurable, intelligent engagement. &#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>-Tom</p>
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		<title>Comment on what ads say by Russel</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19235</link>
		<dc:creator>Russel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen or heard of it yet, but I suspect some marketeers will figure out a way to cleverly convey a message even with FF being used. On old VCR&#039;s a FF image was unwatchable, with DVR&#039;s you can still see the content. If you can flash a message with a long enough duration and the right repetition to register even with FF you&#039;ve essentially created subliminal advertizing that is legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen or heard of it yet, but I suspect some marketeers will figure out a way to cleverly convey a message even with FF being used. On old VCR&#8217;s a FF image was unwatchable, with DVR&#8217;s you can still see the content. If you can flash a message with a long enough duration and the right repetition to register even with FF you&#8217;ve essentially created subliminal advertizing that is legal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what ads say by Melanie Deardorff</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19194</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Deardorff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That IS a Larson classic -- love your spin on it. There&#039;s also a &quot;What we say to cats&quot; cartoon (can&#039;t find a good link to share, but I do see the images on Google). As a long-time marketing vet, I totally related to your cartoons. Thanks for the weekly chuckles and for your thoughtful posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That IS a Larson classic &#8212; love your spin on it. There&#8217;s also a &#8220;What we say to cats&#8221; cartoon (can&#8217;t find a good link to share, but I do see the images on Google). As a long-time marketing vet, I totally related to your cartoons. Thanks for the weekly chuckles and for your thoughtful posts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what ads say by Akshay</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19155</link>
		<dc:creator>Akshay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think moving to in-program advertising (product placement) would be one of the answers. That would not mean, that we&#039;d have to do away with ads altogether - the superbowl for e.g. is more about ads than the game - many folks in India for that matter know &#039;Superbowl&#039; becuse of the ads - and not the game. 

I would tend to agree with one of the commentators here that say &#039;relevance&#039; but if  I am interested in the program - then I am gonna FF, no two ways about it, and even if i catch a lingering brand image - its not going to register.

In-program advertising, if done correctly, would do much better. The BBC aired &#039;Sherlock&#039; series advertises Phone brands via product placement almost shamelessly. But, the point here is - its almost not intrusive - you&#039;d notice it but you&#039;d carry on. Im sure, veracity of PP cant be established with one anecdote. But, PP with relevance makes sense 
(&#039;done correctly&#039;: very imp)

Btw, great as always Tom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think moving to in-program advertising (product placement) would be one of the answers. That would not mean, that we&#8217;d have to do away with ads altogether &#8211; the superbowl for e.g. is more about ads than the game &#8211; many folks in India for that matter know &#8216;Superbowl&#8217; becuse of the ads &#8211; and not the game. </p>
<p>I would tend to agree with one of the commentators here that say &#8216;relevance&#8217; but if  I am interested in the program &#8211; then I am gonna FF, no two ways about it, and even if i catch a lingering brand image &#8211; its not going to register.</p>
<p>In-program advertising, if done correctly, would do much better. The BBC aired &#8216;Sherlock&#8217; series advertises Phone brands via product placement almost shamelessly. But, the point here is &#8211; its almost not intrusive &#8211; you&#8217;d notice it but you&#8217;d carry on. Im sure, veracity of PP cant be established with one anecdote. But, PP with relevance makes sense<br />
(&#8216;done correctly&#8217;: very imp)</p>
<p>Btw, great as always Tom&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on what ads say by tomfishburne</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19143</link>
		<dc:creator>tomfishburne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Boris,

Yes, the talk will be recorded.  I&#039;ll share a link afterwards for those of you who can&#039;t make it.  Thanks!

-Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Boris,</p>
<p>Yes, the talk will be recorded.  I&#8217;ll share a link afterwards for those of you who can&#8217;t make it.  Thanks!</p>
<p>-Tom</p>
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		<title>Comment on what ads say by Brit Tucker Stewart</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19137</link>
		<dc:creator>Brit Tucker Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never thought about it in this way, but you are spot-on with this. Consumers not only do not have patience, they also have selective hearing.  Great insight, Tom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never thought about it in this way, but you are spot-on with this. Consumers not only do not have patience, they also have selective hearing.  Great insight, Tom!</p>
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		<title>Comment on what ads say by DSprogis</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19132</link>
		<dc:creator>DSprogis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

I look forward to your piece every Monday!

This piece is particularly interesting to me - with US ad spending at $173b to reach 311m people, advertisers paid over $550 per person in 2011.  Adjusting for age and demographics, advertisers likely paid over $2,000 to reach members of your audience.  If 86% are lost to FF, then only $280 of that $2000 is having any effect.

With that level of inefficiency, one would think that the &quot;fast forward&quot; becomes critical.  However, I&#039;d wager that the &quot;fast forward&quot; test boils down to skin, hair, muscle, and flash.  So we return to the old adage that &quot;sex sells&quot;.

I wonder, however, whether there is another message.  I wonder whether viewers are drawing the line at 86% because they can&#039;t tolerate the excessive proliferation of advertising.  Might the industry be better served by reducing the ad space and putting a higher premium on it?  What if prime time had only 14% of their current ad space, 2-3 minutes on the hour rather that 14-15 minutes?  And what if ads were rarely viewed twice in an evening rather than so many times that they become irritating?  And with the cost of slots so high, what if advertisers routinely spend Super Bowl sums on creative?  Might viewers not only be too lazy to skip so few ads, might viewers actually want to watch the ads?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>I look forward to your piece every Monday!</p>
<p>This piece is particularly interesting to me &#8211; with US ad spending at $173b to reach 311m people, advertisers paid over $550 per person in 2011.  Adjusting for age and demographics, advertisers likely paid over $2,000 to reach members of your audience.  If 86% are lost to FF, then only $280 of that $2000 is having any effect.</p>
<p>With that level of inefficiency, one would think that the &#8220;fast forward&#8221; becomes critical.  However, I&#8217;d wager that the &#8220;fast forward&#8221; test boils down to skin, hair, muscle, and flash.  So we return to the old adage that &#8220;sex sells&#8221;.</p>
<p>I wonder, however, whether there is another message.  I wonder whether viewers are drawing the line at 86% because they can&#8217;t tolerate the excessive proliferation of advertising.  Might the industry be better served by reducing the ad space and putting a higher premium on it?  What if prime time had only 14% of their current ad space, 2-3 minutes on the hour rather that 14-15 minutes?  And what if ads were rarely viewed twice in an evening rather than so many times that they become irritating?  And with the cost of slots so high, what if advertisers routinely spend Super Bowl sums on creative?  Might viewers not only be too lazy to skip so few ads, might viewers actually want to watch the ads?</p>
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		<title>Comment on what ads say by Bill Carlson</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19129</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A TV show considered successful might have as few as 3 million viewers -- reported &quot;share&quot; of target consumers is single-digit percentages... And of that 3 million, perhaps at any given point in time 10% are in the market for the advertised product?

So we&#039;re discussing here how to get 300,000 prospects to take something away from fast-forwarded TV commercials? Okay, fair enough, they&#039;re watching other shows and other segments of the same target audience are watching other shows, but still...

In the meantime, it&#039;s likely that 100% of the target audience is online (in my house it&#039;s often WHILE the TV is on!), probably for hours per day, so perhaps the bigger opportunity (and challenge) is how to convert &quot;click-past&quot; (ignoring or interactively skipping ads) to &quot;click-thru&quot; (actual engagement).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A TV show considered successful might have as few as 3 million viewers &#8212; reported &#8220;share&#8221; of target consumers is single-digit percentages&#8230; And of that 3 million, perhaps at any given point in time 10% are in the market for the advertised product?</p>
<p>So we&#8217;re discussing here how to get 300,000 prospects to take something away from fast-forwarded TV commercials? Okay, fair enough, they&#8217;re watching other shows and other segments of the same target audience are watching other shows, but still&#8230;</p>
<p>In the meantime, it&#8217;s likely that 100% of the target audience is online (in my house it&#8217;s often WHILE the TV is on!), probably for hours per day, so perhaps the bigger opportunity (and challenge) is how to convert &#8220;click-past&#8221; (ignoring or interactively skipping ads) to &#8220;click-thru&#8221; (actual engagement).</p>
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		<title>Comment on what ads say by Harry M</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19127</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley I could not agree more - well said</description>
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		<title>Comment on what ads say by Ashley C.</title>
		<link>http://tomfishburne.com/2012/02/what-ads-say.html#comment-19125</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, great inspiration from Gary Larson!  Truly a classic - the cartoon itself, as well as the artist.  I think the reason that consumers are exercising this &quot;selective hearing&quot; is that advertisers/marketers really aren&#039;t sharing anything new!  This issue of perceived &quot;lather-rinse-repeat&quot; cycles comes from two major issues that you have touched upon within your cartoons so far within the past few months - 1.) Lack of truly innovative products in the marketplace; and 2.) Lack of strong consumer insights.  Even if we continued to live in a world of &quot;commercial innovations&quot; where the new news of the season is a new product scent, what will help differentiate in the marketplace - as well as on the television screen - would be communicating this to the consumer in a relevant and differentiating manner.  Marketing/advertising 101, but it is amazing how we overlook this in the final cut of the ad (or perhaps the foundation block - um, the brief!?).  Relevancy is the key ingredient - for the consumer target, for the consumer need, and ultimately in the message.  When that happens, consumers will keep from fast forwarding (or actually tune in when they cannot fast forward on Hulu).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, great inspiration from Gary Larson!  Truly a classic &#8211; the cartoon itself, as well as the artist.  I think the reason that consumers are exercising this &#8220;selective hearing&#8221; is that advertisers/marketers really aren&#8217;t sharing anything new!  This issue of perceived &#8220;lather-rinse-repeat&#8221; cycles comes from two major issues that you have touched upon within your cartoons so far within the past few months &#8211; 1.) Lack of truly innovative products in the marketplace; and 2.) Lack of strong consumer insights.  Even if we continued to live in a world of &#8220;commercial innovations&#8221; where the new news of the season is a new product scent, what will help differentiate in the marketplace &#8211; as well as on the television screen &#8211; would be communicating this to the consumer in a relevant and differentiating manner.  Marketing/advertising 101, but it is amazing how we overlook this in the final cut of the ad (or perhaps the foundation block &#8211; um, the brief!?).  Relevancy is the key ingredient &#8211; for the consumer target, for the consumer need, and ultimately in the message.  When that happens, consumers will keep from fast forwarding (or actually tune in when they cannot fast forward on Hulu).</p>
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